The Eldest Daughter of the Church (#136)

1 00:00:41,797.551020408 --> 00:00:48,407.551020408 In our last episode, What is Faith?, Corey and I began a conversation about knowledge, belief, and saving faith. 2 00:00:49,157.551020408 --> 00:00:59,937.551020408 Now, we'll continue that conversation in the next episode, diving into the differences between infallible Catholic dogmas, which we must believe, and Catholic teachings. 3 00:01:00,362.551020408 --> 00:01:18,892.551020408 Which are not necessarily binding articles of the faith, but in between, we wanted to sandwich in this bonus episode to bring you some updates about the podcast and invite you to take a free online class in Catholic Church history that I'll be teaching over the next few months. 4 00:01:20,995.918367347 --> 00:01:23,145.918367347 Well, Ed, we're sitting out here in the forest. 5 00:01:23,145.918367347 --> 00:01:23,965.918367347 We've been out here. 6 00:01:23,965.918367347 --> 00:01:29,525.918367347 We just recorded another episode, but while we were doing that, the sun came out. 7 00:01:29,865.918367347 --> 00:01:30,105.918367347 Yes. 8 00:01:30,105.918367347 --> 00:01:32,755.918367347 It's been kind of a little overcast today. 9 00:01:32,765.918367347 --> 00:01:33,415.918367347 And now the. 10 00:01:34,220.918367347 --> 00:01:36,820.918367347 The sunlight is filtering down through the pines. 11 00:01:36,830.918367347 --> 00:01:41,350.91836735 We crab all year, all winter about how cold it is, and rightfully so. 12 00:01:41,820.91836735 --> 00:01:45,460.91736735 And yesterday and the day before, it was unbelievably hot. 13 00:01:45,610.91836735 --> 00:01:50,830.91836735 Yeah, it was like muggy and heavy and stuffy, and I don't like that. 14 00:01:50,840.91836735 --> 00:01:53,300.91836735 Like, I grew up in the southwest U. 15 00:01:53,300.91836735 --> 00:01:53,610.91836735 S., 16 00:01:53,640.91736735 --> 00:01:55,0.91836735 you know, and so I like... 17 00:01:55,380.91836735 --> 00:02:00,900.91836735 The Mediterranean Southern California climate where I grew up or, or I like, I really liked the desert out there. 18 00:02:00,900.91836735 --> 00:02:07,680.91836735 Like I've spent a lot of time, lived and spent a lot of time in like Arizona and Colorado and, you know, Nevada. 19 00:02:08,30.91736735 --> 00:02:16,890.91736735 And I just like that climate and I love where we live in the great lakes, but you can get a few weeks a year where it gets this kind of feels like Atlanta or something. 20 00:02:16,900.91736735 --> 00:02:17,280.91736735 Yeah. 21 00:02:17,280.91736735 --> 00:02:17,580.91736735 Yeah. 22 00:02:17,580.91736735 --> 00:02:22,40.91736735 I guess it's kind of a heavy thing, but you know, we're, we're just about now to Labor Day. 23 00:02:22,40.91736735 --> 00:02:22,100.91736735 Yeah. 24 00:02:22,530.91836735 --> 00:02:29,200.91836735 The next week is Labor Day, and then the best time of the year here, hands down, is September October. 25 00:02:29,460.91836735 --> 00:02:29,700.91836735 Yeah. 26 00:02:29,880.91836735 --> 00:02:37,140.91736735 Like, if you, dear listener, have never been to this part of the country, in the Great Lakes, on the Shores of the Great Lakes, in, like, September... 27 00:02:37,240.91836735 --> 00:02:37,510.91836735 Yeah. 28 00:02:40,385.91836735 --> 00:02:45,815.91836735 It is, it is like if we could have 10 months of September, you know, maybe, maybe a month of snow around Christmas. 29 00:02:45,815.91836735 --> 00:02:49,425.91836735 So we have white Christmas and then like, you know, it'd be hot at the 4th of July. 30 00:02:49,455.91836735 --> 00:02:55,185.91836735 But if we, cause it's like this low humidity, it's beautiful kind of breezes off the Great Lakes. 31 00:02:55,535.91736735 --> 00:02:57,915.91736735 It's like 72 degrees. 32 00:02:58,305.91836735 --> 00:02:59,545.91836735 There's no bugs. 33 00:02:59,545.91836735 --> 00:03:00,755.91836735 It's just, it's, it's like. 34 00:03:01,310.91836735 --> 00:03:19,290.91936735 It's like dead nuts perfect and it's in get into october and people are starting to burn leaves and there's no The greatest smell in the world is that and then out here in the secret compound, of course Um, some distance away from us over here we have a big fire pit area And so we were just talking about as soon as we get into september here. 35 00:03:19,300.91936735 --> 00:03:24,880.91936735 The weather's so perfect You know, in the evenings and fire pit and sweatshirts, marshmallows, oh my goodness. 36 00:03:24,880.91936735 --> 00:03:25,60.91936735 Yeah. 37 00:03:25,60.91936735 --> 00:03:29,400.91936735 And yeah, all kinds of, you know, other things, you know, beverages and whatnot. 38 00:03:29,600.91936735 --> 00:03:29,820.91936735 Right. 39 00:03:29,840.91836735 --> 00:03:32,220.91936735 So, you know, it's, uh, it's just a wonderful time. 40 00:03:32,220.91936735 --> 00:03:40,390.91936735 So anyway, we're sitting out here, the sun's coming out, but we wanted to update our listeners about a number of things regarding the podcast. 41 00:03:40,920.91936735 --> 00:03:45,750.91936735 And uh, so we thought we would maybe kind of have a little conversation about that and bring them. 42 00:03:46,10.91936735 --> 00:03:48,710.91936735 And the first thing we want to say is thank you for listening. 43 00:03:49,285.91936735 --> 00:03:51,445.91936735 You know, this has been a really interesting journey. 44 00:03:51,445.91936735 --> 00:03:55,75.91936735 So we, we launched this podcast about a year and a half ago. 45 00:03:56,55.91936735 --> 00:04:00,565.91836735 And by the time this airs, we're nearing 150 episodes. 46 00:04:00,855.91936735 --> 00:04:06,985.91936735 We're in the one thirties or one thirty five, which means that we're going to have to start planning our sequescentennial episode. 47 00:04:07,125.91836735 --> 00:04:09,725.91936735 Oh, we got to think of something special for the sequescentennial. 48 00:04:09,735.91936735 --> 00:04:11,925.91936735 We need, we need, we need merch for that. 49 00:04:11,955.91936735 --> 00:04:13,225.91936735 We need to need merch. 50 00:04:13,235.91936735 --> 00:04:18,945.91936735 And that's one of the things that has been suggested in, and for you dear listeners is maybe we might. 51 00:04:19,200.91936735 --> 00:04:28,260.91936735 You know, have like a, you know, some merch, like, you know, coffee mugs or, or I don't know, hoodies that you could wear at the fire pit with us for considering Catholicism. 52 00:04:28,680.91936735 --> 00:04:39,210.91936735 So we, we're just really grateful because the cool thing is that, uh, we started this thing about a year and a half ago, you know, 20 months or something, but it was, uh, January of 2022. 53 00:04:41,100.91936735 --> 00:04:46,300.91936735 And like, I think the first month we had like 10, 10 downloads. 54 00:04:46,725.91936735 --> 00:04:46,995.91936735 Yeah. 55 00:04:47,15.91936735 --> 00:04:48,15.91936735 Or something like that. 56 00:04:48,15.91936735 --> 00:04:48,905.91936735 You know, I was like, Oh, wow. 57 00:04:48,905.91936735 --> 00:04:49,185.91936735 You know? Yeah. 58 00:04:49,645.91936735 --> 00:04:51,695.91936735 And then I was like, maybe we'd break like 50. 59 00:04:51,815.91936735 --> 00:05:02,545.91836735 But the, the funny thing is I was just showing Ed the little download curve and every month for 20 months, it's gone up like on this growth curve, like 10 or 20% a month, like compounding interest. 60 00:05:02,765.91936735 --> 00:05:03,45.91936735 Right. 61 00:05:03,85.91836735 --> 00:05:07,685.91936735 And we're nearing the point now, dear listeners, where, I mean, I know it's still small, like compared to like. 62 00:05:07,905.91936735 --> 00:05:27,95.91936735 Joe Rogan or Bishop Barron, you know, we're just like insignificant little, you know, small fry sitting here in the forest, but we're now nearing, you know, five, six, maybe approaching soon 10, 000 downloads a month, which, you know, again, when we started, there were like 10, so it just feels huge. 63 00:05:27,135.91836735 --> 00:05:27,615.91936735 It does. 64 00:05:27,715.91936735 --> 00:05:29,215.91936735 And they're from all over. 65 00:05:29,695.91936735 --> 00:05:38,285.91936735 So we look at our download distribution and they come from all over the United States, like every state and a lot of international. 66 00:05:38,375.91836735 --> 00:05:47,495.91836735 So we get a lot of downloads from, well, of course, Canada, which is just sort of like America's hat, right? I've never heard that. 67 00:05:47,665.91836735 --> 00:05:48,265.91836735 Oh, yeah, yeah. 68 00:05:48,285.91936735 --> 00:05:49,25.91936735 No, I love that one. 69 00:05:49,25.91936735 --> 00:05:53,995.91936735 It's like, and it's just right up here, like, like from where we sit here in the forest with the Sasquatch. 70 00:05:54,470.91936735 --> 00:06:15,625.81936735 Uh, if you just drive that way past the gas station where you get the gas station pizza, just keep going right and you'll get to America's hat, but, uh, but I love our Canadian listeners, but also we've got a lot of listeners in Europe has been surprising, uh, a lot of European listeners and the other thing that's been, you know, interesting lately is we've got Bye. 71 00:06:15,845.91936735 --> 00:06:19,775.91936735 Listeners from some countries I'm not going to name, but I think there are countries where we have U. 72 00:06:19,775.91936735 --> 00:06:19,965.91936735 S. 73 00:06:19,975.91936735 --> 00:06:35,55.91936735 military bases and, uh, in strange places around the world where we're seeing like 100 downloads or something or 200 downloads and, you know, in a month or something, and I'm starting to think that maybe, you know, maybe we have some service members that are listening and which would be wonderful. 74 00:06:35,55.91936735 --> 00:06:45,360.91936735 And if you are, um, we'll keep your location secret, but we're really, really grateful in all seriousness for, uh, You're devotional listening this podcast. 75 00:06:45,380.91936735 --> 00:06:56,950.91936735 And then the other thing is the emails that we get I am a terrible, I am a horrible, bad, awful person. 76 00:06:57,80.91936735 --> 00:07:03,180.91936735 I'm literally a bad person because I don't get back to people with emails as quickly as I should. 77 00:07:03,210.91936735 --> 00:07:07,140.91836735 And it's one of the things that I, I really like a character flaw where I have to reply. 78 00:07:07,440.91836735 --> 00:07:11,130.91936735 I'm buried in a lot of stuff because this is not my job. 79 00:07:11,820.91936735 --> 00:07:16,720.91936735 I have other jobs and I'll get into that in a moment because we're going to talk about something that's an opportunity for your listeners. 80 00:07:17,145.91936735 --> 00:07:19,115.91936735 But, uh, I just, I'm buried. 81 00:07:19,315.91936735 --> 00:07:24,585.91936735 Send me those emails, some of them, and I'll write back and make up reasons why you can't reply. 82 00:07:24,805.91936735 --> 00:07:25,645.91936735 Why I can't reply. 83 00:07:25,925.91936735 --> 00:07:34,985.91936735 Cause I just, I get a lot of emails which I'm super grateful for, but I'm usually just absolutely buried in my work, cause when I'm not sitting in the forest here, I'm, I'm doing a lot of stuff. 84 00:07:35,585.91836735 --> 00:07:37,555.91936735 But we're really grateful and we're gonna get better. 85 00:07:37,575.91936735 --> 00:07:41,575.91936735 I promise to get better about it and maybe Ed, you can help with some of the emails too. 86 00:07:42,165.91936735 --> 00:07:52,335.91936735 But we're really grateful for The stories that you share with us and they're really touching and stories about how this podcast has really affected people and impacted their lives. 87 00:07:52,365.91936735 --> 00:07:57,175.91936735 And, um, uh, so, yeah, we're grateful for your listening. 88 00:07:57,175.91936735 --> 00:07:58,735.91936735 And then the last thing is your support. 89 00:07:59,55.91836735 --> 00:08:02,655.91836735 So look, we, we are not financially supported. 90 00:08:03,205.91936735 --> 00:08:06,555.91936735 This podcast or this ministry is not financially supported by. 91 00:08:06,995.91936735 --> 00:08:12,785.91936735 By any organization, we don't have a church or a parish or an, uh, agency that supports us. 92 00:08:12,795.91936735 --> 00:08:15,55.91936735 It's a 100% listener supported. 93 00:08:15,415.91936735 --> 00:08:18,485.91936735 So, you know, we do have a link that you can contribute. 94 00:08:18,980.91936735 --> 00:08:33,540.91936735 And, uh, as we'll get into a little bit here today, uh, there's a lot of things that we would like to do, um, where we feel like this ministry is growing and growing and growing and more and more people are downloading and more and more people are writing and saying this is making a real big difference in their lives and the lives of their friends. 95 00:08:33,830.91936735 --> 00:08:38,440.91836735 And we would like to kind of put more effort into it, but you know, we're listener supported. 96 00:08:38,440.91836735 --> 00:08:41,560.91936735 So if you would, you know, consider, um, supporting. 97 00:08:42,110.91936735 --> 00:08:46,820.91936735 Uh, the podcast, the more that you support it, the kind of more we can do. 98 00:08:46,850.91936735 --> 00:08:48,730.91936735 You have run some ideas past me. 99 00:08:48,730.91936735 --> 00:08:52,430.91936735 I won't say any of them, but you have from time to time said, Oh, I have an idea. 100 00:08:52,430.91936735 --> 00:08:53,300.91936735 We could do this. 101 00:08:53,600.91936735 --> 00:08:56,550.91936735 And without fail, I think, Oh man, that would be so cool. 102 00:08:56,810.91936735 --> 00:08:59,90.91836735 I think there's a lot of ways that this ministry can grow. 103 00:08:59,90.91836735 --> 00:09:09,180.91836735 And in all fairness, you know, I love if you've ever like, uh, listened to or clicked through anything from Bishop Barron and I love Bishop Barron, then you're going to get about like six emails a day. 104 00:09:09,270.91936735 --> 00:09:13,950.91936735 from, uh, Bishop Barron, and we're on fire asking you to support their ministry and they do great work. 105 00:09:14,320.91936735 --> 00:09:20,190.91836735 Uh, but we, uh, we are literally a shoestring operation running on like, you know, pennies. 106 00:09:20,590.91936735 --> 00:09:26,120.91836735 So we would like to devote more time and effort and resources to expand this ministry. 107 00:09:26,130.91836735 --> 00:09:28,190.91836735 And so anyway, enough of that. 108 00:09:28,480.91836735 --> 00:09:29,850.91836735 I don't want to talk about that. 109 00:09:29,880.91836735 --> 00:09:31,340.91836735 I want to talk about an offer. 110 00:09:31,965.91936735 --> 00:09:41,115.91936735 And I, boy, as soon as you say that, hey, I have a proposition for you, like it's going to cost you, no, this is 100% not going to cost you anything and it's not a scam. 111 00:09:41,985.91936735 --> 00:09:50,55.91936735 So one of the other things that I do, well, yeah, one of the other things that I do, uh, in my work, uh, my day jobs. 112 00:09:50,750.91936735 --> 00:10:05,520.91936735 Is, I'm the Dean of the Lakeshore Academy for the New Evangelization, and what it is is an online learning platform for, uh, children, adults, and families, uh, that teaches the Catholic faith. 113 00:10:06,510.91936735 --> 00:10:16,230.91936735 And we've been around for about five years, and we have courses, uh, online courses all about the Catholic faith. 114 00:10:17,300.91936735 --> 00:10:27,100.91936735 And we traditionally, up until now, the Lakeshore Academy of Therapeutic we call it, has been, there was like a little subscription fee. 115 00:10:27,550.91936735 --> 00:10:30,610.91836735 Like, people had to pay 20 bucks a month or something. 116 00:10:30,970.91936735 --> 00:10:34,160.91836735 And that was to offset the operational costs. 117 00:10:34,160.91936735 --> 00:10:37,930.91936735 I mean, it was like the hosting and the softwares and all the different stuff. 118 00:10:37,930.91936735 --> 00:10:40,680.91936735 And it's supported by our parish. 119 00:10:41,175.91936735 --> 00:10:56,425.91936735 Uh, Our Lady of the Lake, well, we have decided to make that the Lane Catholic Adults program available for free to anybody, including you listeners, which means all you have to do is go to a lanecatholic. 120 00:10:57,235.91936735 --> 00:11:03,85.91936735 org and basically sign up with your email and you get access to the courses. 121 00:11:03,95.91936735 --> 00:11:17,85.91936735 And what I wanted to do is talk about a course that I'm going to start teaching this fall It's an eight week course and you can log in live and participate. 122 00:11:17,115.91936735 --> 00:11:23,155.91836735 You can watch me teach the course on video in a webinar format, uh, but when then we also archive it. 123 00:11:23,155.91936735 --> 00:11:30,295.91936735 So if you don't log in while it's live, you can, you know, log in afterward and, and download it or watch it that way. 124 00:11:30,795.91936735 --> 00:11:38,885.91936735 And um, so I want to talk about that course and then the fact that we have, I have dozens of other courses that I've taught that are archived. 125 00:11:40,420.91936735 --> 00:11:44,550.91936735 Hundreds of hours of courses about Catholicism, Catholic history, Catholic literature. 126 00:11:44,890.91936735 --> 00:11:55,530.91836735 So if you enjoy the things that we talk about here, and if you enjoy hearing me talk about these things, well, guess what? I've got a lot of stuff that you can now have access to. 127 00:11:56,260.91936735 --> 00:12:17,305.91936735 This was my introduction to actually stepping foot in the Catholic church was your, uh, two Two falls ago in the fall of 21, you did, you started a 12 week course about Dante's divine comedy, and I was there for almost all of them watched the ones I missed on later on on the website, but that was they were wonderful. 128 00:12:17,305.91936735 --> 00:12:23,140.91936735 And if you and I have listened to Greg preach for years now, and I... 129 00:12:23,150.91936735 --> 00:12:25,590.81936735 Gosh, you've been listening to me drone on for like 20 years or something. 130 00:12:25,590.91936735 --> 00:12:26,80.91936735 I have. 131 00:12:26,400.91936735 --> 00:12:26,810.91936735 I have. 132 00:12:27,170.91936735 --> 00:12:28,440.91936735 Um, I never get tired of it. 133 00:12:28,850.91836735 --> 00:12:29,800.91936735 I, I've never... 134 00:12:29,840.91936735 --> 00:12:30,130.91936735 Listen... 135 00:12:30,130.91936735 --> 00:12:46,645.91936735 When did we start, like, we started working together in that one, like, the hipster coffee house church where I used to teach, like, back in the early 2000s? I think, yeah, I think, I think 2006, 2007, something like almost 20 years that you've been hearing me drone on about stuff. 136 00:12:46,685.91936735 --> 00:12:46,915.91936735 Right. 137 00:12:46,945.91936735 --> 00:12:50,805.91936735 And I still, I still reference things you said in sermons. 138 00:12:50,965.91936735 --> 00:12:52,635.91936735 I went and looked for them online. 139 00:12:52,635.91936735 --> 00:12:53,425.91936735 They're no longer there. 140 00:12:53,425.91936735 --> 00:12:53,965.91836735 I wish they were. 141 00:12:53,965.91936735 --> 00:12:55,295.91836735 So I downloaded some of them. 142 00:12:55,875.91836735 --> 00:12:57,525.91836735 Anyway, a lot of that stuff has stuck with me. 143 00:12:57,525.91936735 --> 00:13:00,565.91836735 Anyway, uh, without me interrupting Greg, he, he's even better. 144 00:13:01,215.91836735 --> 00:13:04,395.91936735 Um, so I've, I've, I would encourage you to go check it out. 145 00:13:04,405.91936735 --> 00:13:06,655.91936735 The, uh, that Dante thing was fantastic. 146 00:13:06,655.91936735 --> 00:13:08,625.91836735 The thing about, uh, the life of Mary. 147 00:13:09,20.91936735 --> 00:13:11,320.91936735 Was, uh, Mary After Jesus, that was great. 148 00:13:12,250.91936735 --> 00:13:24,820.91936735 Yeah, I mean, the Dante course was cool, so, so we've got, I think, in the last five years, I think I have, I think it's close to two dozen courses that I've taught, and those are archived. 149 00:13:25,305.91936735 --> 00:13:32,945.91936735 In video format, so you can, and, and each course is like anywhere from four to 12 weeks long. 150 00:13:33,245.91936735 --> 00:13:33,465.91936735 Right. 151 00:13:33,525.91936735 --> 00:13:40,815.91936735 And it's everything from church history, doctrine, literature, I mean, that was the Dante course. 152 00:13:40,815.91936735 --> 00:13:54,495.91836735 We did a whole, like Ed said, a whole 12 week exploration of the Catholic vision of the world and Catholic theology through that, you know, so many things that we've talked about. 153 00:13:54,505.91936735 --> 00:13:54,905.91836735 Um, well. 154 00:13:55,340.91936735 --> 00:14:03,420.91936735 Anyway, I've got a class coming up this fall, and it starts on September 11, so it runs for, uh, it's eight Monday nights. 155 00:14:03,740.91936735 --> 00:14:08,190.91936735 There's a break in the middle, like there's four, and then we got a, like, two week break, and then four more. 156 00:14:08,190.91936735 --> 00:14:15,800.91936735 But it's, it's on Monday nights, and it starts at, I guess it's 7 o'clock Eastern time, wherever you are. 157 00:14:16,185.91936735 --> 00:14:51,935.91836735 If you want to be alive and the way it works is you sign up for the lane program, which is all it requires is your email and there's a checkbox that you came from the considering Catholicism podcast that's only just so we can kind of track where people are coming from and then what it is is you'll get like an invite each week to a zoom webinar and then you'll hear me or see me You know, droning on and you could always, you could always show up live and if I'm there attending the class, uh, you know, I'll like, I'll, I'll put the little cake up in the Keurig thing for you. 158 00:14:53,95.91836735 --> 00:14:53,895.91836735 Yeah, there you go. 159 00:14:54,135.91836735 --> 00:14:55,775.91836735 And you can see what had the Protestant looks like. 160 00:14:56,55.91836735 --> 00:15:00,305.91836735 And then, uh, but if, but then those courses are then archived. 161 00:15:00,335.91936735 --> 00:15:08,165.91936735 So like if you're not there live on Monday night and, and you also, when you're doing that in the webinar format, you can type in a question and then I'll answer it live. 162 00:15:08,165.91936735 --> 00:15:11,135.91936735 So if you want to take place in that live course, you can do that. 163 00:15:11,620.91936735 --> 00:15:24,810.91936735 Or, you know, you have access to, to those classes afterwards and then the whole archive of, of, I think, literally, like, I don't, like, I was, I gotta be out, like, a hundred or two hundred, you know, different hours of, of classes that I've taught. 164 00:15:25,360.91936735 --> 00:15:28,670.91936735 So I'm gonna tell you about this course that's coming up, because I'm kind of psyched about it. 165 00:15:29,460.91936735 --> 00:15:31,440.91936735 It's called the eldest daughter of the church. 166 00:15:32,290.91936735 --> 00:15:41,160.91936735 What's the course about? Well, uh, the eldest daughter of the church is an old description for the country of France. 167 00:15:41,390.91836735 --> 00:15:42,200.91836735 France. 168 00:15:42,670.91836735 --> 00:15:46,370.91936735 Uh, some of you are old enough to know, like, remember the Coneheads? France. 169 00:15:46,420.91936735 --> 00:15:46,710.91936735 Right. 170 00:15:46,930.91936735 --> 00:15:48,360.91836735 Uh, we come from France. 171 00:15:48,680.91936735 --> 00:15:59,680.91936735 But France is, uh, is what is often called the eldest daughter of the church because when you go back to the time of the apostles, shortly after the apostles, right, it was a Roman, uh, it was Gaul. 172 00:16:00,135.91936735 --> 00:16:08,325.91936735 And, and Roman Gaul, G A U L, um, which we now call France, but it was a huge Roman colony or province. 173 00:16:09,5.91836735 --> 00:16:14,805.91936735 And so, the first Christians from the time of the apostles spread into Roman Gaul. 174 00:16:15,365.91836735 --> 00:16:25,385.91936735 And so, from the beginning, like, if Italy, you know, because where Rome was, was kind of, you know, that the eldest daughter of the church was always France, it was dedicated to. 175 00:16:25,745.91936735 --> 00:16:28,45.91936735 You know, our lady, uh, a lot of people don't know this. 176 00:16:28,45.91936735 --> 00:16:29,865.91936735 I'll mention in the class that, right. 177 00:16:29,885.91936735 --> 00:16:34,45.91936735 And when you look at France, the sort of logo or symbol of France traditionally is the fleur de lis. 178 00:16:34,765.91936735 --> 00:16:36,225.91936735 You ever seen that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 179 00:16:36,235.91936735 --> 00:16:43,275.9183673 You know what the fleur de lis is? The stylized lily, like L I L L Y, like the flower. 180 00:16:43,965.9183673 --> 00:16:54,685.9183673 Because in medieval times, or even before that, ancient times, the lily became a symbol for the Virgin Mary, like just a, like a visual, you know, like, you know, the symbology. 181 00:16:55,750.9193673 --> 00:17:08,30.9183673 And so the lily, the fleur de lis, the stylized fleur de lis, which is a stylized lily, is indicative that France was dedicated to the Blessed Virgin Mary, right? Our Lady. 182 00:17:08,340.9183673 --> 00:17:13,190.9203673 And it became the eldest daughter of the church because so much of church history is tied up with the history of France. 183 00:17:13,200.9193673 --> 00:17:19,150.9193673 So what I'm going to do in this course, the eldest daughter of the church, is I'm going to walk through Catholic history. 184 00:17:19,650.9193673 --> 00:17:27,510.9193673 Sort of the arc of Catholicism seen through key incidents in church history in France. 185 00:17:28,90.9193673 --> 00:17:35,80.9193673 Like the first week we're gonna talk about the, the church in the, the second century, which is the one hundreds, right? You always, you know mm-hmm. 186 00:17:35,680.9193673 --> 00:17:39,281.9193673 So in the mid one hundreds, you had one of the great. 187 00:17:39,720.9193673 --> 00:17:43,930.9193673 Fathers of the church, you know, church, the church fathers, patristic teachers, uh, St. 188 00:17:44,910.9193673 --> 00:17:45,180.9193673 Irenaeus. 189 00:17:45,440.9193673 --> 00:17:48,310.9193673 Huge, huge influence in the early church. 190 00:17:48,330.9193673 --> 00:17:49,510.9193673 Great father of the church. 191 00:17:49,520.9193673 --> 00:17:53,160.9193673 And Irenaeus was in the city that we call now Lyon. 192 00:17:53,770.9193673 --> 00:17:57,160.9193673 Uh, Le Gugnum was the name of the Roman city. 193 00:17:57,490.9203673 --> 00:18:15,835.9193673 And so, one of the great early patristic fathers of the church, who wrote Against Heresies of his day, in fact his most famous book is called Against Heresies, was in Lyon, France, but only a few years after him, and we'll talk about this in the first night of the class, what you had was, uh, the emperor Marcus Aurelius. 194 00:18:16,295.9193673 --> 00:18:22,165.9193673 And if you saw the movie gladiator, Marcus Aurelius was like the emperor and gladiator, you know, who, okay. 195 00:18:22,175.9193673 --> 00:18:26,485.9193673 Before like the crazy, his crazy son, but Marcus Aurelius. 196 00:18:26,840.9193673 --> 00:18:46,230.9193673 There was a persecution under Marcus Aurelius in I think 177, and it broke out in Lyon, France, and it's really interesting because of the martyrs of Lyon, some of the early, most famous acts of martyrdom where the Romans threw people into the arena to die, took place in the arena. 197 00:18:46,560.9193673 --> 00:18:59,520.9193673 I kind of like the, you know, the Colosseum in Lyon, France, and when somebody says, we're going to talk about the early years of the France and like, we're going to go on, we're going to talk in different nights, uh, different, you know, uh, sessions of the class. 198 00:18:59,550.9183673 --> 00:19:01,490.9193673 We're going to talk about the Middle Ages. 199 00:19:01,775.9193673 --> 00:19:16,875.9193673 So we're going to explore the art and architecture of the Middle Ages, the great Gothic cathedrals, Notre Dame, Saint Denis, Chartres, the great, you know, triumph of Gothic architecture and medieval art, the way of beauty. 200 00:19:17,445.9193673 --> 00:19:21,465.9193673 We're going to talk about the great intellectual achievements of the Middle Ages in France. 201 00:19:21,495.9193673 --> 00:19:23,105.9193673 So you have the University of Paris. 202 00:19:23,445.9193673 --> 00:19:23,705.9193673 St. 203 00:19:23,715.9193673 --> 00:19:35,775.9193673 Thomas Aquinas, and, uh, the Dominicans, and, uh, these great, great intellectual movements of the great high Middle Ages in France, places like Paris. 204 00:19:35,805.9193673 --> 00:19:46,65.9193673 And then we're going to talk about the monastic systems, like the great abbeys of Clunet and Clairvaux, and the great monastic movements of the Middle Ages. 205 00:19:46,975.9193673 --> 00:19:51,855.9193673 And then we're going to talk about some exciting things, like Joan of Arc, we're going to have a whole class session. 206 00:19:52,315.9193673 --> 00:20:29,305.9193673 Uh in joan of arc because she's this wonderful, you know, joan of arc is the patron saint of courage And just an amazing story About a Catholic heroine really who in a lot of ways is compared to one of the Old Testament judges like Deborah or something Fantastic story about Joan of Arc and that'll be one of the sessions and then we're gonna talk about the revolutions that occurred in France So you had you know, the French Revolution you had prior to that the Protestant Reformation, which was kind of a revolution and the saints, French saints that, that countered those things. 207 00:20:29,315.9193673 --> 00:20:30,305.9193673 So we're going to talk about St. 208 00:20:30,305.9193673 --> 00:20:38,655.9193673 Francis de Sales, who countered the Calvinist revolution in Geneva, but just over the border in France and on sea, we're going to talk about St. 209 00:20:38,655.9193673 --> 00:20:49,395.9193673 Jean Vianney, who occurred to ours, who was a, uh, was a pastor in central France a generation after the French revolution and all the terrible things that happened there. 210 00:20:50,25.9193673 --> 00:20:54,265.9193673 And, you know, he was this like small town, little country priest. 211 00:20:54,855.9193673 --> 00:21:06,45.9193673 And he just started sitting in the confessional every day, and tens of thousands of people came from all around France to go to confession because he was so gifted in the confessional at healing people's consciences. 212 00:21:06,555.9193673 --> 00:21:13,765.8193673 And, you know, after all the terrible things that happened in the French Revolution, so many people traveled from all around the country. 213 00:21:14,255.9193673 --> 00:21:16,305.9193673 To have the Kurdars, you know, heal their soul. 214 00:21:16,775.9193673 --> 00:21:17,5.9193673 Wow. 215 00:21:17,135.9193673 --> 00:21:19,545.9193673 And then we're going to talk about lords. 216 00:21:19,785.9193673 --> 00:21:23,595.9193673 So in the early 19th century, you had St. 217 00:21:23,595.9193673 --> 00:21:28,715.9193673 Bernadette, a young girl who is out essentially in the city garbage dump one day. 218 00:21:29,115.9193673 --> 00:21:42,715.9193673 And the Blessed Virgin Mary appears to her and says, pray the rosary, appear here and build for me a chapel here for all the processions And to this day, the Basilica and Lourdes, something like 10 million people a year. 219 00:21:42,825.9193673 --> 00:21:43,225.9193673 Wow. 220 00:21:43,255.9193673 --> 00:21:43,815.9193673 Come to that. 221 00:21:44,155.9193673 --> 00:21:50,235.9193673 And then we're going to talk about one of the greatest of all French saints, Saint Therese of Lisieux, the Little Flower. 222 00:21:50,855.9193673 --> 00:21:57,215.9193673 So basically, what we're going to see is sort of the arc of church history over 2, 000 years. 223 00:21:57,505.9193673 --> 00:22:03,415.9193673 Play out through the lens of, of France and the people and the places and the saints of, of France. 224 00:22:03,415.9193673 --> 00:22:04,345.9193673 I gotta come to this thing. 225 00:22:04,385.9193673 --> 00:22:06,965.9193673 Yeah, it's gonna be a great class called The Eldest Daughter of the Church. 226 00:22:07,155.9193673 --> 00:22:08,535.9193673 So here's how you sign up for it. 227 00:22:08,535.9193673 --> 00:22:10,365.9193673 It's totally free, costs you nothing. 228 00:22:10,375.9193673 --> 00:22:12,185.9193673 There's no strings. 229 00:22:12,185.9193673 --> 00:22:16,635.9183673 This isn't like a multi level marketing thing that, hey, we're gonna offer you this and then you have to do something. 230 00:22:16,635.9193673 --> 00:22:17,825.8193673 It's just like, like, this is just... 231 00:22:17,985.9193673 --> 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00:23:34,320.9193673 --> 00:23:38,240.9193673 And, uh, and then a couple other things, just things that we're going to try to do here. 247 00:23:38,670.9193673 --> 00:23:44,770.9183673 One of the things is we've started to get to 130, 140, nearing our sequicentennial of 550 episodes. 248 00:23:45,240.9193673 --> 00:23:53,660.9193673 Is that I get emails from people and they'll say, Hey, I got a question about this or that, or can you talk about this? And I go, well, we actually did, but it's been so many episodes now. 249 00:23:54,705.9193673 --> 00:23:59,605.9193673 You know, there's an archive of material because our episodes average, you know, 45 minutes or so. 250 00:23:59,605.9193673 --> 00:24:03,585.9193673 So, like, there's like 120 hours of content here. 251 00:24:04,475.9193673 --> 00:24:08,545.9193673 So, it's a little bit of a work and like I said, we have no time for this and no resources to do this. 252 00:24:08,605.9193673 --> 00:24:08,735.9193673 Right. 253 00:24:09,65.9193673 --> 00:24:14,15.9193673 But one of the things we're going to try to do is, uh, organize the archive and have an index. 254 00:24:14,315.9183673 --> 00:24:17,765.9183673 So, what you'll find, um, we've just done that and taken it live. 255 00:24:18,95.9193673 --> 00:24:20,5.9193673 So, by the time this episode airs, it'll be done. 256 00:24:20,25.9193673 --> 00:24:20,235.9193673 Right. 257 00:24:20,425.9193673 --> 00:24:24,585.9193673 And if you go to our website, ConsideringCatholicism. 258 00:24:24,615.9193673 --> 00:24:28,235.9193673 com There'll be a link there at the top that says index. 259 00:24:28,655.9193673 --> 00:24:35,555.9193673 And it's basically going to have an index of all of the episodes and a little descriptions of them with some key words. 260 00:24:35,565.9183673 --> 00:24:47,655.9193673 So if you're like, hey, I want to learn more about the Eucharist, or I want to learn more about church history, I want to look at book clubs, or I want to look at, uh, I want to learn more about baptism, or I don't know, whatever, how to, you know, Protestant Bibles versus Catholic Bibles. 261 00:24:47,735.9193673 --> 00:24:48,765.9193673 You can go there. 262 00:24:49,115.9193673 --> 00:24:51,25.9193673 And you can go back and scroll through those. 263 00:24:52,165.9193673 --> 00:24:56,675.9193673 And then what else were we going to do, Ed? I think there were some other things we were going to try to do that were cool. 264 00:24:57,95.9193673 --> 00:24:58,335.9193673 Oh, gosh. 265 00:24:58,335.9193673 --> 00:25:02,705.9183673 What was it? Um, oh, well. 266 00:25:03,540.9193673 --> 00:25:05,60.9193673 We have somebody who wants swag. 267 00:25:05,510.9193673 --> 00:25:07,360.9193673 Oh, uh, uh, emails. 268 00:25:08,240.9193673 --> 00:25:09,100.9193673 Answering questions. 269 00:25:09,180.9193673 --> 00:25:11,670.9193673 Yeah, oh yeah, how do I forget this? This is like a big thing. 270 00:25:11,670.9193673 --> 00:25:12,190.9193673 Oh my gosh. 271 00:25:12,490.9193673 --> 00:25:16,240.9193673 I totally, I'm on to the hoodies and stuff and I haven't even gotten to the important part. 272 00:25:16,640.9193673 --> 00:25:22,340.9203673 So, so one of the things we're going to do is we're going to have a special episode every month. 273 00:25:22,535.9193673 --> 00:25:23,735.9193673 Uh, Q and a episode. 274 00:25:24,395.9193673 --> 00:25:27,755.9193673 So again, I am the worst person in the world. 275 00:25:27,775.9193673 --> 00:25:42,15.9193673 I'm a really bad man because I don't get back to people because what happens is people will write me an email and they'll ask questions like I have this question about the Catholic faith, this question about the Catholic faith, or I'm struggling with this, or, you know, my fiance is sending this, or, you know, I have a brother in law that says this. 276 00:25:42,505.9193673 --> 00:25:55,875.9193673 And my problem is, is that I sit there and I look at that and I go, Oh my gosh, I really want to be, I want to give them a good answer and then I sit and I write like this 3, 000 word exhausted email like this, this like, you know, article, this treatise, this book chapter. 277 00:25:55,875.9193673 --> 00:25:57,195.9193673 Instead of shoveling the driveway. 278 00:25:57,765.9193673 --> 00:26:03,645.9193673 Well, yeah, and, and then, well, then I delay because I go, man, this person deserves a 3, 000 word answer. 279 00:26:04,80.9193673 --> 00:26:05,320.9193673 And then I never get it done. 280 00:26:05,800.9193673 --> 00:26:12,920.9193673 So what we're going to do is if you will write in your questions, at least once a month, we'll have a special question episode. 281 00:26:13,70.9193673 --> 00:26:23,200.9183673 Or, and we're going to say, Hey, you know, we'll hide your name or whatever, but you know, we'll call him Dave from somewhere in the Pacific Northwest. 282 00:26:23,200.9183673 --> 00:26:24,150.9183673 Let's call everybody Dave. 283 00:26:24,160.9183673 --> 00:26:24,730.9183673 Yeah, right. 284 00:26:25,40.9183673 --> 00:26:29,485.8193673 Asks, what about this? Or he has a, he wants to know how to explain this to his. 285 00:26:29,645.9193673 --> 00:26:45,765.9193673 Idiot brother in law, right? And so I'll go like, oh, okay, and then um, you know add or record You're like read the questions and I'll answer them to the best of my ability So we want to invite you to be take part of that Send your questions to to considering catholicism at gmail. 286 00:26:45,805.9193673 --> 00:26:48,355.9193673 com or greg at considering catholicism. 287 00:26:48,605.9193673 --> 00:26:49,925.9193673 com Either one will get to me. 288 00:26:50,135.9193673 --> 00:27:21,285.9193673 We're going to organize those and at least once a month once a month We'll have a special q a episode And, um, we actually had this idea, I don't know if it would work, to maybe occasionally go live and have people, you know, do like a, you can do like a live thing on Twitter Spaces or YouTube or whatever, but I don't know, there are people, like, I look at the distribution of our downloads and they're so spread out around the country and Europe and everything, like, I don't know what time zone people are in, like, if I said we're gonna do it at 7 o'clock Eastern time, like, half the people in Europe are, It's the middle of the night. 289 00:27:21,285.9193673 --> 00:27:24,895.9193673 Yeah, but then we'd have to shave, wouldn't we? Well, I know, and I don't, you know, I don't know. 290 00:27:24,895.9193673 --> 00:27:26,425.9193673 People don't know what we look like. 291 00:27:26,475.9193673 --> 00:27:30,315.9193673 That's the other thing is if you, if you sign up for this Lane class, you're going to find out what I look like. 292 00:27:30,315.9193673 --> 00:27:38,565.9183673 And, and that, that terrifies me because I, I don't like how I look on camera, but anyway, uh, you know, where it's nice, can we just hide here in the woods? I'm used to it now. 293 00:27:38,585.9183673 --> 00:27:39,25.9183673 Yeah. 294 00:27:39,135.9193673 --> 00:27:42,955.9193673 You know, we just kind of hide here in the woods and all that, but, uh, and you don't get to see our faces. 295 00:27:42,955.9193673 --> 00:27:47,355.9193673 I, you know, you got a face made for, for radio or broadcasting, but whatever. 296 00:27:47,395.9193673 --> 00:27:48,335.9193673 Uh, you know. 297 00:27:48,580.9193673 --> 00:27:50,390.9193673 Uh, look, uh, we really want to do this. 298 00:27:50,420.9193673 --> 00:27:52,730.9193673 This is a ministry and we're really trying to serve you. 299 00:27:53,20.9193673 --> 00:27:56,30.9193673 We're really trying to, um, serve, uh, the church. 300 00:27:56,40.9193673 --> 00:27:57,950.9193673 We're really trying to serve the kingdom. 301 00:27:58,570.9193673 --> 00:28:06,310.9193673 You know, our, our, our, our mission is to, to educate, equip, and, you know, excite, educate, and equip people to live, share, and defend. 302 00:28:06,715.9193673 --> 00:28:12,555.9193673 The historic Catholic faith and again, we have zero resources and we would like to do more. 303 00:28:12,615.9193673 --> 00:28:14,725.9193673 But in the short term, this is what we can do. 304 00:28:14,725.9193673 --> 00:28:25,295.9193673 So I want to invite you to take part in the class, sign up for a lane membership and, and take part in this eldest daughter of the church class and the archive of other courses. 305 00:28:25,305.9193673 --> 00:28:26,995.9193673 And then I'll be teaching another course in the spring. 306 00:28:26,995.9193673 --> 00:28:27,915.9193673 So you have that. 307 00:28:28,515.9193673 --> 00:28:33,155.9193673 And then the Q and a episodes and um, I don't know, maybe we'll do. 308 00:28:33,515.9193673 --> 00:28:35,505.9193673 You know, swag or merch or something. 309 00:28:35,525.9193673 --> 00:28:36,45.9193673 I don't know. 310 00:28:36,65.9193673 --> 00:28:36,505.9193673 I don't know. 311 00:28:36,505.9193673 --> 00:28:36,855.9193673 I don't know. 312 00:28:36,895.9193673 --> 00:28:38,695.9193673 Will people really do that? I don't know. 313 00:28:38,696.0193673 --> 00:28:39,175.9193673 I don't know. 314 00:28:39,715.9193673 --> 00:28:39,965.9193673 I don't know. 315 00:28:40,385.9193673 --> 00:28:40,825.9193673 I don't know. 316 00:28:41,185.9193673 --> 00:28:41,715.9193673 But anyway... 317 00:28:41,725.9193673 --> 00:28:42,695.9193673 We need the tour jackets. 318 00:28:42,705.9193673 --> 00:28:43,205.9193673 That's what we need. 319 00:28:44,895.9193673 --> 00:28:48,505.9193673 What we need to do is, is we need to have one of these things, like these tiers. 320 00:28:48,525.9193673 --> 00:28:50,395.9193673 Like, if you will donate so much... 321 00:28:50,615.9193673 --> 00:29:06,15.9193673 To right considering Catholicism that, uh, so we can, you know, scale up here that then we would like, uh, you'll get an autographed copy of one of Ed's guitar picks or, um, you know, you know, I should do because because people I have people who say they like my voice. 322 00:29:06,25.9183673 --> 00:29:08,885.9183673 I had somebody for another podcast that I host. 323 00:29:08,976.0193673 --> 00:29:15,75.9193673 Uh, uh, say, uh, I would like to have you read bedtime stories because I can do this with Mike. 324 00:29:15,405.9193673 --> 00:29:23,235.9193673 I can do, I can do like the NPR voice, but you know what I'm saying is I could do, I could do your, um, your, uh, voicemail. 325 00:29:23,405.9193673 --> 00:29:26,555.9183673 That's what I'm saying is like the, the first tier is the voicemail. 326 00:29:26,565.9193673 --> 00:29:27,105.9183673 The voicemail. 327 00:29:27,295.9193673 --> 00:29:32,955.9193673 Like if you, if you contribute so much, then Greg will think, hi, you've reached Susie. 328 00:29:33,360.9193673 --> 00:29:36,380.9193673 And she's not available right now because she's considering Catholicism. 329 00:29:36,400.9193673 --> 00:29:36,870.9193673 Oh, I like that. 330 00:29:36,890.9193673 --> 00:29:38,770.9193673 When she's done, she'll get back to you. 331 00:29:38,900.9193673 --> 00:29:39,680.9193673 So leave your number. 332 00:29:39,770.9193673 --> 00:29:40,20.9193673 Right. 333 00:29:40,100.9193673 --> 00:29:41,410.9193673 You know, I could record stuff like that. 334 00:29:41,640.9193673 --> 00:29:51,600.9193673 And then, you know, if people gave enough, we could give them directions to the secret compound and they could come out here and sit with us and do a bonfire. 335 00:29:52,490.9193673 --> 00:29:53,170.9193673 And talk about Catholicism. 336 00:29:53,170.9193673 --> 00:30:03,520.9193673 We could have a little, like, a Greek chorus, you know? Yeah, well, you know, we could sit around here and, you know, gotta be chill and, like, talk about Catholicism while we sit by the bonfire in the forest and look for Sasquatch. 337 00:30:03,530.9193673 --> 00:30:08,620.9183673 So, there's all kinds of possibilities out there, but, like, take away, big one, lanecatholic. 338 00:30:10,30.9183673 --> 00:30:10,600.9183673 org. 339 00:30:10,750.9193673 --> 00:30:15,720.9193673 Sign up for the Eldest Daughter of the Church course and all the other courses on archive and coming. 340 00:30:16,310.9193673 --> 00:30:19,820.9193673 Uh, write in your questions for the Q& A. 341 00:30:20,265.9193673 --> 00:30:28,845.9193673 And we'll do those and we promise to get better about responding to your emails and at least please consider donating through the link that's in the description. 342 00:30:29,205.9183673 --> 00:30:29,895.9183673 I think that's it. 343 00:30:30,275.9193673 --> 00:30:31,45.9193673 Yeah, thanks. 344 00:30:31,185.9193673 --> 00:30:31,555.9183673 All right. 345 00:30:31,555.9193673 --> 00:30:32,595.9193673 Well, talk soon, Ned. 346 00:30:32,645.9193673 --> 00:30:32,855.9193673 Bye. 347 00:30:35,82.8581429 --> 00:30:36,162.8581429 Thank you for listening. 348 00:30:36,732.8581429 --> 00:30:47,782.8581429 My name is Greg Smith, and if you've enjoyed this podcast, would you please hit the like and subscribe buttons wherever you get your podcasts, and please share it with others. 349 00:30:48,542.8581429 --> 00:30:58,882.8581429 And if you're curious about the Catholic worldview and faith, the church and its saints, or Catholic history, culture, and art, then visit consideringcatholicism. 350 00:30:58,912.8581429 --> 00:31:01,942.8581429 com and email me to let me know what you think. 351 00:31:02,532.8571429 --> 00:31:04,922.8581429 Greg at consideringcatholicism.